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I love music. In a world of chaos, it is the simply thing that tin can make me feel somewhat simpatico with beingness. In a globe of vices with their inherent negative tradeoffs, music is 1 of the few things that can bring you immense joy and pleasure without some sort of negative counterbalance, like a hangover, or addiction or health concerns, or emotional entanglement. And something tells me that if you've found yourself on a niche website called "Saving Country Music," you probably experience similarly.

Expressing what music ways to all of united states is the e'er-present challenge of a music writer. Whether it's music every bit a concept, country music in general, or a song or album specifically, attempting to describe the deep emotions music makes us feel is the evergreen struggle of the music journalist, but one that is rewarding in the fleeting moments your words rise to run across this claiming. Music expresses emotions mere words just rarely can, so the written or spoken medium is ultimately at a disadvantage. It's also 1 of the few things left that can bring people together beyond the cultural divide.

A few days ago, someone sent me a video of professor, thinker, and author Hashemite kingdom of jordan Peterson talking nigh music on The Joe Rogan Feel. Even equally toxic and polarizing as the name "Joe Rogan" is at the moment, "Jordan Peterson" takes it to another stratosphere, specifically from all of the incessant articles and retrieve pieces nigh the toxicity of these ii men, the characterizations of them being from the alt-right, and other paw wringing that goes forth with only mentioning their names before whatsoever bailiwick at mitt is even broached.

Just in the xiv years of covering state music, and when composing the some 7,100 manufactures I take published on this site lonely, I have never seen a more stunning explanation of not just what music is, merely why information technology is and then important, and why it affects us all similar it does, than the one Jordan Peterson delivered on The Joe Rogan Experience. Jordan Peterson is considered by his critics as one of the most common cold-hearted and callous intellectuals of our era from his severe adherence to the doctrines of cocky-reliance, and his ruthless dismantling of identity politics. To see him pause downward emotionally is hard to fifty-fifty embrace, no affair what the field of study affair or context happens to be. For that subject to exist music makes it all the more exceptional.

And for all of the examples that Jordan Peterson could have cited in his caption of what music is and why it moves us—concertos, Russian symphonies, soaring pop stars like Adele or Jennifer Hudson—for his muse to be Kelley'south Heroes, which is the long-continuing business firm band of Robert's Western World bred from the Don Kelley Ring of all outfits—Robert's being the very domicile and epicenter of the land music revolution and the final bastion of sanity on Lower Broadway—makes the moment even more exceptional, and specifically germane to this website.

Whatever you think of Jordan Peterson, or Joe Rogan, simply try and clear you mind for a 2nd, and as a music fan, watch this:

Of course, Joe Rogan had a somewhat basic contribution by citing Jimi Hendrix. Not that Jimi Hendrix isn't an example of what'south being spoken about, considering he is. Simply information technology's just such a default case, as opposed to the specific case Peterson cited of "Ghost Riders in the Sky," from Kelley'south Heroes, at Robert'southward Western World, with who knows what virtuoso on guitar, maybe Daniel Donato, mayhap Brent Mason, maybe Guthrie Trapp or Johnny Hiland, or Luke McQueary, or any number of guys who've filled that iconic spot in Kelley's Heroes over the years.

Only it's Jordan Peterson'due south words that ring so truthful, as he chokes dorsum the emotion similar he'southward continuing in the Robert's Western World oversupply as he speaks, overwhelmed by the joy and communion that music, and music only, can communicate.

Music is an analog of the structure of being itself, and it calls to you to take part in that … And then music does something else also. Information technology puts yous on the border of chaos and lodge, because a boring vocal does exactly what yous expect it to do, and gets dull very quickly, and an unlistenable song is so random you can't follow it. And so what you want is predictability, with a leaven of unpredictability, and that puts you right on the edge. That's the zone of proximal development.

And everyone is so taken past that because it lifts them out of the normality of their being. You lot see this joy just transfuse them. And that'south because they got an intimation of genuine meaning. And it'due south not acquiescent to rational criticism, which is the thing that struck me as so miraculous about music, and why information technology has this chemical element of salvation. It puts y'all direct in affect with the meaning that sustains yous in life, and it shows you what that would exist, which is something similar to find the harmonious interplay of the patterns of being stacked upon one another, and then to bring yourself into alignment with that.

In a couple of paragraphs, Jordan Peterson explains what I accept failed to explain in over 7,100 articles posted to this website. But I proceed trying. And the principles about music that Jordan Peterson conveys here guide my hand every twenty-four hour period equally I endeavour to share the gifts of music with an audition, because as Peterson also infers, your experience with music is heightened when you share it with another.

Only there is a trouble with all of this, isn't there? For some, maybe many who just read the preceding paragraphs, all the wisdom, all the beauty conveyed in that very intimate and expressive moment is tainted by the two individuals involved in it. Some, if not many, likely bailed before they even got to the quotes, or even bothered to watch the video. "Transphobe," "Anti-Vaxxer," "Alt-Right," is what was triggered in their minds, irrespective of anything else. Similarly, some may see the proper name "Neil Immature," and immediately think "Commie," "Censor," "Liberal." And this is the problem with all of society at the moment. And fifty-fifty though only one of these individuals is a musician, it'southward specifically a music problem now likewise.

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Bated from recognizing the name, and having some periphery notion that he had something to exercise with the UFC, I really had no thought who Joe Rogan was until October of 2014 when Stugill Simpson appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience for the showtime time. Not really being a TV guy, I'd never seen an episode of Fear Factor, only caught parts and pieces of News Radio (when Joe Rogan notwithstanding had pilus), and had no inkling he was a standup comedian at all. This occupation is patently how Joe Rogan and Sturgill Simpson met.

"Dude! Sturgill's on Rogan! Sturgill's on Rogan!" I heard from probably a dozen readers that twenty-four hour period in 2014, which meant virtually nothing to me, considering I didn't know Joe Rogan had a podcast either. This was a few months after Sturgill'southward anthology Metamodern Sounds of Country Music had been released, and was setting the contained country globe on fire. So I found the podcast on YouTube, cued information technology up, and my jaw hit the floor. 2 hours, and 56 minutes long? Are you kidding me? And I thought episodes of This American Life were involved. I'd never committed that much private fourth dimension to anything that didn't feed me, fuck me, or help put a roof over my head.

But I listened. To the whole three hours. And it was awesome. And make no mistake, that Joe Rogan podcast episode in 2014 was monstrous for helping to put Sturgill Simpson on the map. It might take been the most significant moment in Sturgill Simpson's entire career. Sturgill besides appeared on The Joe Rogan Experience in April of 2016, and in March of 2018.

Shooter Jennings, Chris Stapleton, Gary Clark Jr., and Susanne Santo are also some names from the state and roots world who've appeared, and received a big boost from The Joe Rogan Experience, not to mention the mere mentions of artists such every bit Colter Wall, Tyler Childers, and others by Rogan on the podcast or on social media that has been meaning in the development and growth of these artists and their careers, and independent country in full general. You tin can sentinel the sales and streams fasten in coordination with Joe Rogan mentions, and this is from a guy whose podcast really doesn't have much to practise with music at all, though he has had other music personalities on in the past too such as Gem, and especially from the hip-hop world with guys like Snoop Dogg and Killer Mike.

Since the outset of Saving Land Music, shining a spotlight on critical moments when celebrities and influencers shout out up-and-coming artists has been an emphasis, because so often this is when careers are made. Recently, Joe Rogan was at The White Horse in Austin, TX, which is Austin's equivalent to Robert's Western World in Nashville—a true honky tonk specializing in authentic country music. Rogan shot a video of and shouted out a local artist named Ellis Bullard, who just released a debut single chosen "Roller Coaster," which correct now sits atop the Saving Land Music Top 25 Playlist, and does and then irrespective of the Joe Rogan shout out. Ellis Bullard has been working the honky tonks difficult for a while, and is about to release his debut anthology. The video Rogan shot has now been viewed over a million times.

Ellis Bullard could very well be one of the adjacent big artists to intermission out in independent country music, in part due to Joe Rogan. But just similar the Jordan Peterson video, I was reluctant to share the news initially. Simply mentioning Joe Rogan would take immediately instigated a civilization state of war fracas, and Ellis Bullard would have been an afterthought. That is the reality of anything involving Joe Rogan at the moment.

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In many respects, Neil Young suffers from the same fate every bit Joe Rogan, and Jordan Peterson—being immensely popular to many, while others experience an immediate visceral negative reaction by the mere mention of his proper noun. Despite his polarizing nature, Neil Young deserves to be considered as 1 of the most important and prolific songwriters and musical performers of our time. Specific to country music, Neil Young's string of albums Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere, Later The Gilded Blitz, and Harvest released between 1969 and 1972 is every bit solid of a country music or country rock run of albums from any artist in any era, native to country music or otherwise. Of form, this is an stance, but information technology's an opinion of a staunch state music critic, not a rock critic with some country knowledge.

It was also the opinion of multiple land artists of the era. Waylon Jennings took Neil Young's song "Are You lot Set up For The Country?" and reworked it into an Outlaw-era anthem, and made it the title runway of his 1976 album. The Trio (Dolly Parton, Emmylou Harris, Linda Ronstadt) covered Neil Immature's "After The Aureate Rush" on their 2nd anthology. Neil Young featured Don Gibson's "Oh, Lonesome Me" on his Afterwards The Gilt Rush album. Legendary steel guitar player Ben Keith was featured on Neil's Harvest.

And of form, the songs "Southern Man" and "Alabama" tin be found on these Neil Young country albums also—two of his nearly polarizing songs in his catalog, not considering they lash out and criticize The Southward'due south history of racism, only because they stereotyped anybody from the region with the same broad castor, without distinction or dash. This was the issue Lynyrd Skynyrd took with them, and ultimately became the inspiration for "Sweet Home Alabama," though later, the human relationship between Immature and Skynyrd was less heated, and more mutually respectful. Neil Immature is an activist, and has been his entire career. He came up protesting the Vietnam War and helping lead the counterculture revolution playing in Buffalo Springfield. Nobody can be surprised that at 76 and in 2022, Neil Young is still standing for what he believes in, however you may feel about those beliefs.

In some respects, even if you are a Joe Rogan fan, you lot can't blame Neil Immature for ditching Spotify in protestation. If the only matter you lot knew of Joe Rogan was what you read in the mainstream media instead of actually listening to his podcast—which is the state of the vast majority of Joe Rogan's detractors (as pointed out in a at present viral tweet by Edward Snoden)—y'all would think he is the most insufferable human being on the planet. Hitlerian in scope.

But how many three-hr episodes of The Joe Rogan Experience has Neil Young sat through? The answer is likely almost zippo, similar to the people who will share hit pieces written and produced past the same legacy mainstream media Joe Rogan's homespun functioning is trouncing in ratings by 4 to 5 fold on a regular basis. Joe Rogan isn't just bigger than any given cablevision news show by multiple multipliers, at any given time, he may exist trouncing all cable news shows combined.

This right hither—the above graph—is one of the many reasons in that location is a full on set on on The Joe Rogan Experience at the moment, and why there has been for the final couple of years. Cable news and the mainstream media are out to graphic symbol assassinate Joe Rogan to hopefully earn back some of that market share they've lost to him.

But if these critics were familiar with the podcast, they would know that the vast bulk of what happens on The Joe Rogan Feel is not only harmless, its oft superfluous. The king of beasts'south share of episodes are Joe Rogan interviewing his comedian buddies, UFC commentary, man bro car/cooking/hunting/practise talk, and general interest stuff that might be conversationally entertaining, but not always particularly enriching unless your interest is generally aligned with whomever the guest is. That is why despite being drawn into the Joe Rogan podcast world by Sturgill Simpson's advent and other interesting personalities over the years, I never really became a Joe Rogan podcast guy.

But that doesn't hateful that Joe Rogan won't drop a deep, heady episode with an important guest with a transformational perspective, or a few of them in a row. Some Joe Rogan podcasts tin be downright life-altering with the amount of earth-shattering and perspective-irresolute information conveyed in them. Information technology is these episodes that have made him and then powerful, and as well, and then reviled and feared by his detractors and competitors.

Joe Rogan didn't set out to be the biggest affair in all of American media. Joe Rogan only wanted to smoke pot with his comedian buddies and talk well-nigh aliens. No large media moguls or corporations were behind ensconcing Joe Rogan as the most powerful homo in media. That is role of the trouble. He's not a machination of their own hand. He exists exterior of the American corporate kleptocracy, and the uniparty industrial complex. He's not in the pocket of Big Pharma or the American defense force industry.

From the outset, Joe Rogan was the guy that talked about the subjects the mainstream media ignored, glossed over, or outright lied about. He was talking to Sturgill Simpson, not Luke Bryan. He invited on the guests everyone wanted to hear from, but others wouldn't let a platform, and on the political left and the right. He was a consensus seeker busting through the purposeful bifurcation of America that keeps united states of america all fighting each other and engaged with mainstream media that slants to one side or the other. Joe Rogan was a counter-puncher, and the other voice in American media. Information technology just happens to exist that over the concluding five years or and so, the American mainstream media has then beclowned itself and fallen so demonstrably from grace due to ideological contagion, a cage-fighting commentator and 2nd rail comedian became the most trusted vox in all of America. Perhaps he was not e'er right, just he'due south always real.

As the monopoly on attending that the mainstream media has enjoyed for generations began to erode, and their quick, soundbite arroyo to media became exposed by long grade commentary, Joe Rogan's listenership expanded immensley, the knives came out from his competition. Presently he was branded "alt-right," even though Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders in the last Presidential election, and had Bernie Sanders on his prove, along with other left-leaning thinkers on a regular basis, while endorsing ideas such as universal healthcare, universal basic income, the forgiving of pupil debt, and other left-leaning issues, balanced simply past support of the 2nd Amendment, and his opposition to COVID-xix restrictions.

But where the correct accepted Joe Rogan for his political beliefs that were counter to their own, the left attempted to banish him for having the audacity to platform thinkers from the right, like Jordan Peterson, and for sharing non-mainstream-canonical ideas. Joe Rogan'due south adversaries looked to make his name a reprehensible utterance in polite society. But of grade, it non only failed, if fueled curiosity in what Joe Rogan was doing. Every bit his name became ever-present in hitting pieces that ran parallel to the constricting of allowed discourse in mainstream media and on social networks, Joe Rogan's listenership swelled. Similar to what nosotros've seen with Morgan Wallen in popular country music after an incident where the singer was caught using the N-discussion in a private moment with a friend, the more the media attempted to undermine Joe Rogan, the more than his popularity soared.

Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, and others that have decided to go out Spotify are doing so because they believe Joe Rogan was sharing "COVID-19 misinformation." Only what few are bringing up is that Joe Rogan was an unequivocal victim of COVID-nineteen misinformation himself, or at to the lowest degree the attempted ane. In September of 2021 when Rogan contracted COVID, dozens of media outlets falsely claimed that Joe Rogan took horse dewormer to rid himself of the disease. Rolling Rock, CNN, and scores of other media outlets made the Joe Rogan equus caballus dewormer story the centerpiece of their coverage on September 1st.

Earlier Joe Rogan had controversial COVID-nineteen guests on his podcast such as Dr. Peter McCullough or Dr. Robert Malone, the media looked to enact the kill shot on Joe Rogan by knowingly falsely challenge he took horse medication, and refusing to correct the record later on. Only if yous get to kill the king, you amend state the shot. And instead, the media only perjured themselves, proved their lack of brownie, and had even more than people tuning into The Joe Rogan Experience to meet what all the hubub was about, and patently, finding favor with what they found. It'southward also fair to wonder if by making Joe Rogan the public face of the COVID-19 counter-narrative, they compelled him to invite guests such Dr. Peter McCullough or Dr. Robert Malone on the podcast.

And Joe Rogan is right when he says that throughout the pandemic, there have been numerous ideas that initially if shared could have yous stricken from social media, while they would never be discussed in the mainstream whatsoever, that ultimately proved to be true. Equally he said in his accost/explanation/amends after Neil Young's protestation,

The problem that I take with the term "misinformation" is that many of the things that nosotros thought of equally misinformation simply a curt while ago are now accepted equally fact, like for instance eight months ago if you said, 'If you go vaccinated, y'all can notwithstanding grab COVID and spread COVID, you would exist removed from social media. They would ban yous from certain platforms. Now, that's accepted as fact. If y'all said, 'I don't think cloth masks work,' you would exist banned from social media. At present, that's openly and repeatedly stated on CNN. If you said, 'I retrieve it'southward possible that COVID-19 came from a lab,' y'all would be banned from many social media platforms. Now, that's on the cover of 'Newsweek.' All of those theories that at one signal in time were banned, were openly discussed by those ii men (Dr. Peter McCullough or Dr. Robert Malone) I had on my podcast that take been accused of dangerous misinformation.

I'm not here to defend the words, opinions, or characterizations of COVID information past Dr. Peter McCullough, or Dr. Robert Malone equally expressed on The Joe Rogan Experience, or even Joe Rogan'due south personal views on COVID-xix and vaccines, because I'm not a doc, nor am I a COVID-nineteen expert. Simply what I will defend is the right for anybody to be allowed to express their stance, because this is a fundamental right bestowed to all Americans.

Information technology is distinctly anti-Democratic, illiberal, and un-American to attempt to stifle voices in opposition to you as opposed to defeating your positions in open dialogue. As Noam Chompsky once said, "If we don't believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don't believe in it at all." If you believe in the persuasion and validity of your position, and that it will win out when rigorously challenged in the marketplace of ideas, at that place is no reason to conscience your opposition, especially since those censored ideas are only likely to ingather upward somewhere else where they won't be challenged. It'southward better to challenge those ideas head on when confronted with them.

Frequently when people look to stifle the voices of their opposition or work to assassinate the graphic symbol of their intellectual adversaries, it's considering they know their arguments are flimsy, often because they're not based in fact or truth, but strident ideology—the same strident ideology that confers yous the grace to lie about someone or something, as long as you're on the perceived correct side of the moral arc.

Stifling voices besides usually happens to be decisively counter-productive. All that the attempts to disallow people from sharing dissenting viewpoints from the mainstream narrative virtually COVID-nineteen has done is made voices like Joe Rogan stronger. If Neil Immature and others were successful in getting Spotify to kick Joe Rogan off the Spotify platform, or otherwise neuter him where he left nether his own volition, what would happen? Would he just become away and exist forgotten by history? Of course non. He would be welcomed somewhere else, or start his own proprietary network, and be even more pop, and more powerful for it. It'south besides likely he would find that condom haven somewhere even farther to the right.

This is not to defend Joe Rogan and all of his opinions, only his right to take opinions, and to share them, and have others share his opinions through his platform. All Joe Rogan is doing is what Neil Immature has been doing for his entire career (at least, up until recently), which is offering a perspective that is counter to the prevailing mainstream narrative, which fifty-fifty if it meets with widespread disagreement and condemnation, should still be immune to exist shared in the public marketplace, lest we permit bad ideas to prevail unchallenged, or fester in society. It'southward also of import that Neil Young is immune his expression of protest, and leaving Spotify is his right.

Too often instances like the attempted cancellation of Joe Rogan take on the fever of a societal contagion, where people experience compelled to agree with the prevailing sentiment in their friend networks or sphere of influence, or end upwardly being admonished or isolated themselves. This is how nosotros saw the United states get into the state of war in Iraq under simulated pretenses, and eventually the cancellation of the (Dixie) Chicks in state music. The Chicks had the brazenness to speak upwardly against the prevailing mindset, and ultimately ended up on the right side of history.

Meanwhile, equally we all scream dorsum and forth at each other nearly the latest culture war disharmonism, few are focused on how the military industrial circuitous and American mainstream media are a sabre rattling for a state of war in Ukraine that even the Ukrainian's are saying America is overreacting about, and America has no vested interest in bated from helping to pad the pockets of defense contractors now that we've exited Afghanistan, which is suffering from historic dearth in the wake of our get out.

Information technology's likely to be months and years before we are able to get far plenty away from the COVID-xix pandemic to where we tin truly guess all the decisions made with a cool listen and deep data. Until then, nosotros should welcome criticism of consensus opinions. Afterwards all, dissenting viewpoint have already proven to be right on numerous occasions.

And yep, the way Spotify compensates artists and songwriters (or doesn't), is certainly a dynamic to this story, merely it also isn't. When Neil Young decided to utilise his protest to partner with Amazon Music to offer 4 months free to new subscribers, the thought that whatsoever of this was almost artist compensation in the streaming era went out the window.

Recollect, when Apple tree Music first launched, Taylor Swift initially refused to let her music to be on the platform considering they were offering a free trial period equally well. Apple Music later backed down. Now Neil Young and Amazon are using the same gratis trial which takes money direct out of the music economy as a promotional incentive confronting Spotify. Meanwhile, the effects on Spotify by the exit of Neil Young and others volition exist marginal, while the adjacent place this story may turn is how dark money from private equity might have instigated the whole thing as a fashion to bank off of Spotify'southward temporary stock plummet through hedge fund shorts.

But one fair business concern here is how if artists and fans choose to flee Spotify for other platforms, and offset to cocky-curate and stratify beyond streaming networks along ideological lines similar to how cable news networks cater to one side or the other, it will get just some other bifurcation signal of American society. We won't even be able to stream music on the aforementioned platforms anymore, repulsed past our neighbors who dare listen to that service that Joe Rogan is on, or cartel listen to the ane he isn't on.

Information technology's also unclear how much longer all the COVID-19 rhetoric and infighting will even be relevant anymore. Very likely, the pandemic is on its terminal legs, and countries like England and Denmark are already opening up in full and easing all restrictions. A recent Monmouth poll says now 70% of Americans are set to move on. How we all feel about restrictions, masks, vaccines, and mandates may accept a shelf life of weeks as Omicron streaks through the population, and speedily dissipates leaving the disease owned … though of class, we've told this before.

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The uncomplicated fact is that Joe Rogan and Neil Young probably have a lot more than in common than they don't. They're both anti-establishment figures. They both take fabricated careers challenging prevailing narratives. They both are distrusting of higher authorization, and accept fabricated their names expressing every bit much. I would love to sentry Neil Young on The Joe Rogan Feel. I think they would discover a lot of mutual ground, and accept a lot to talk over.

Because the affair is, most of this modern polarization boils down to bullshit. When 2 people come across face to face, in-person like what happens on The Joe Rogan Experience, all the acrimony sowed by social media and today'south journalism mural tends to melt away. Adversaries become friends, differences are diminished in relation to similarities, and sometimes, alliances are even formed. That is what usually happens on Joe Rogan's podcast, and that is what the mainstream who relies on polarization is about afraid of.

The greatest sin of today's media alignment is how it has turned us all against each other for the betterment of bottom lines and business models, and a side effect is the impinging on the power of music to bring usa all together through the principals Jordan Peterson so brilliantly and eloquently expressed on Joe Rogan's podcast. As soon as music becomes the wedge between our similarities as opposed to the bridge betwixt our differences, we volition lose something mode deeper than the power to enjoy music together in a shared experience.

When you go to Robert'south Western World in Nashville, you see all kinds of people: genuine redneck honky-tonkers, throwback country & Western hipsters, and tourists from who knows where and all walks of life, and they're all there enjoying the gift of music together.

Something tells me is that if you put Joe Rogan, Neil Young, and Jordan Peterson all together, continuing in front of the Robert's Western Earth phase, enjoying a Recession Special of a fried bologna sandwich, a Moon Pie, and a PBR, watching some of the greatest talent in the entire world like Brennen Leigh or Sarah Gayle Meech, the brotherhood of man would prevail. Mayhap that'due south fantasy. Only if a rendition of "Ghost Riders in the Sky" tin can bring Hashemite kingdom of jordan Peterson to tears, possibly just nearly annihilation is possible through music.

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